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Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:16 pm

Hi Folks

We have a Kenwood double DIN head set in our VeeDub. I have been meaning to buy an update to the maps for ages but have put it off as a low priority task. However last week I actually tried to do the job and found to my horror that Garmin (& Kenwood) are no longer supporting this model. It is only 5 years old.

A friend passed me a newly downloaded Open Street map re-named gmapsupp.img but the system rejected it. Clearly one needs rather more than just a name change to get the system to believe it is an update.

I see that there might be a solution in the post [http://www.navitotal.com/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=20138&p=164551&hilit=Kenwood+DNX521DAB#p164551], but given my level of ignorance I probably need to be re-directed to some other Newbie Training pages first.

Has anybody out there found a solution to this particular problem?

Regards

Pete

Re: Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:05 am

Just download map 2019.10 NT for your unit is better to see this post viewtopic.php?f=108&t=20138

Re: Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:28 pm

Following some research and experiment I have an answer for non-technical folk like myself.

The first part of the solution seems to be to download Open Street Map (OSM) material formatted such that Garmin devices can read it. There seem to be several sources if one looks at the OSM website [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download] or one can make use of the map cited earlier in this thread. However that requires payment to the hosting organisation to download it at anything. like a sensible speed

I made use of Open Map Chest [https://www.openmapchest.org/maps/united-kingdom-ireland/] which is run by map enthusiast Ben Konrath who offers all his maps free of charge. The UK versions are also routeable so that one can still make use of Post Code searches to find places. The site provides instructions for the downloading of the maps using a BitTorrent tool to suit your operating system (downloadable from the site if you do not have it) and a suitable unzipping tool to give you the file in its final format. Once you have followed Ben’s instruction you should end up with a file called ‘gmapsupp.img’ in a suitable folder somewhere.

The second part of the solution is to get your in-car system to accept the OSM map as an update. The specifics of this next step depend upon which version of the Kenwood head set you happen to have installed. The DNX 521 DAB does not have an SD card for mapping but instead uses a data stick which is attached to a floating socket in the glove compartment.

Step 1 – Follow the instruction in the manual for your device to get a map update. Essentially it will be a case of going to Settings, System, About, Update Map. You will need to insert a blank data stick of at least 4 Gb and the set will write a set idetifier .XML file to it. The data stick will then probably have the following file structure:

[folder]Garmin
GarminDevice.xml

It is no good adding the OSM map at this point as your set will not recognise it as an update.

Step 2 – Go to your PC and get logged into the Garmin website. You will probably be forced to load the useless Garmin Express software. Plug in your data stick and it will show you what Garmin material is associated with your device, particularly the currently installed map. You will also see that the opportunity to update your map is not available. However the option to download your existing map for re-installation will be available. Choose to do that then go off and have a cup of coffee. While you are away the map files and a few other bits and bobs will be added to your data stick.

Step 3 – When the download of the existing map is finished you should find the following file structure on the data stick:

[folder]Garmin
[folder]JVC
[folder]Pnx
.express
GarminDevice.xml
gmapsupp.gma
gmapsupp.img
gmapsupp.unl
gmaptz.img


The file ‘gmapsupp.img’ is your original map. If you want to make a copy of it now is the time. Next delete that file on the data stick and copy in its place the Open Map Chest version of ‘gmapsupp.img’. Make a back up of the data stick for future reference.

Step 4 – Take your data stick to your vehicle and follow the instructions for updating maps. This will most likely be Settings, System, About, Update Map. The update should then start and will take some time. Once finished, switch off the ignition, remove the data stick and the job should be done. When you switch on again things will look much the same as before the update but closer inspection of the map will show some slight difference in style between Garmin original maps and OSM maps plus, of course, all the latest road changes not present on your old map.

I have checked the files at a binary level and have found that the update process in the headset makes no changes to any of the files on the data stick. Thus the structure of files from the data stick that you have saved ought be useful the next time you want to update. However, I have yet to test that theory.

Enjoy!

Pete

Re: Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:55 pm

Great write up Pete! Do you know where in the SD directory tree (?) are the system icons for NAV such as the arrows, back button, hamburger button (more) etc? Mine are all corrupt or "image cannot be found". Only thing that comes up on mine half the time are MPH and N (direction) on a white screen. Sometimes even the AGREE screen is just a bunch "image not found" tiles.

Re: Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:51 pm

Hi There

Sorry to hear that your system is giving you problems. Unfortunately the issue you have is well beyond my pay grade. However, I suspect that part of the system files area has got corrupted. Have you tried going to the Garmin site and seeing if you can get an update for the Unit? Knowing Garmin there will be nothing on their site, but somebody on here or one of the other similar sites may have downloaded an update and kept a copy.

Regards

Pete

Re: Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:45 am

PeteTheRedBus wrote:I made use of Open Map Chest [https://www.openmapchest.org/maps/united-kingdom-ireland/] which is run by map enthusiast Ben Konrath who offers all his maps free of charge. The UK versions are also routeable so that one can still make use of Post Code searches to find places. The site provides instructions for the downloading of the maps using a BitTorrent tool to suit your operating system (downloadable from the site if you do not have it) and a suitable unzipping tool to give you the file in its final format. Once you have followed Ben’s instruction you should end up with a file called ‘gmapsupp.img’ in a suitable folder somewhere.


Hi Pete

How did you get the routes to be searchable via postcode? I carried out the update (and donated to Ben as I see he's shutting up shop), and carried out the update to my unit.

The maps are there, but it doesn't have a postcode option. Only town.

Is there something else I needed to have added to the .img file?

Re: Garmin maps on Kenwood DNX521DAB in car system

Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:33 am

Hi

Sorry for the slow reply. I regret to say that with these updates all you get is Country, Town and Street. The Post Code data is a PostOffice copyright thing and so costs a fair bit to obtain. There is an Open Source equivalent which asks folks to login and enter their address and post code with the intention of reverse engineering the Post Office database. I have not followed up on that but I suspect that it may never get the complete data set.

These days I use a road atlas to plan the journey and then stop 10 miles or less away from the target. I then use Town, Street, Number to locate the required address. Even then I tend to find that the unit does love to do a "Garmin Adventure" which is to take the most stupid route possible. I occasionally download the breadcrumb trail data from the unit and look at it on Google Maps. Garmin may be a famous name but their navigation engine 'sucks' as the Yanks would say.

Regards

Pete
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