RB5 Uconnect touch 8.4N Map update needed   

Postby 392SRT8 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:16 am

subuk wrote:Probably yes; Because TMC is provided through standard FM frequencies ? :-)


But not in the US - it is provided by Sirius Satellite (paid subscription). The fact that it is available outside the US gives me hope that it can be enabled via some Garmin settings in the config files.
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Postby subuk » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:32 am

From wikipedia:

Coverage[edit]

In some places, TMC coverage is smaller than that of the radio programme carrying the TMC service, therefore white spots exist. For example, in the USA, one of the two TMC commercial services is run by Clear Channel Communications, whose 95 FM station urban markets typically have some level of traffic information service. Another is Sirius Satellite Radio, which covers all of North America, including sparsely-populated rural areas and near-empty deserts. Although vendors are beginning[citation needed] to make arrangements with information systems such as CARS, operated by state police and state departments of transportation, coverage is likely to remain sketchy in some states during the next few years.


These mentioned above are commercial services, probably there`s a lot on non-commercial TMC transmissions on FM.
But there`s no doubt Sirius is the best and most accurate option.
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Postby 300319 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:00 pm

@subuk

Yes, I have the Same Screen.

From this Screen can you add a subscription ?

I Thing , Garmin has forgotten us ....European .

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Postby 392SRT8 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:29 pm

subuk wrote:These mentioned above are commercial services, probably there`s a lot on non-commercial TMC transmissions on FM.
But there`s no doubt Sirius is the best and most accurate option.


Totally agree with what you posted. I think I wasn't clear on my post. In the US, I believe Uconnect is setup to ONLY use Sirius and not the FM broadcasts. I just bought a CTP13, so when it arrives my hope is that I can tweak the Garmin settings to configure it to use FM based traffic instead of Sirius. Since your unit outside of the US is indeed using the FM broadcasts, I'm hopeful that I will be able to modify it.
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Postby vinegaroon » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:59 pm

Any updates with anyone? I was bored earlier and tried the new 2014.20 maps and didn't even get to the install screen, it just gave me the flash error after validating. Called a few dealerships and they all tell me to buy a new cd from garmin. I wouldn't care so much with outdated maps but in my case I have no "detailed maps". All my nav screen shows is major highways and the rest is blank land.
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Postby subuk » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:01 pm

Could some of you guys, who live in the US and have CTP13 with those additional options (Sirius SAT Radio etc) post a screenshot of "Radio Part Info" screen from the Dealer Mode ?
I would like to compare if it`s just a matter of software or these UConnects are physically different.
To enter dealer mode press and hold both temperature buttons from the driver side (blue+red) and Windshield Defrost button. You need to hold these 3 buttons until Dealer Mode turns on.
To make a screenshot you need to hold the same temperature buttons + rear window defrost button you hold those 3 button until screen skips and pop up windows shows up with information about successfully taken picture. Of course you must have a pendrive plugged in.
Thanks in advance.
Below you find mine.
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vinegaroon try once again or use another pendrive, download mapset from another source. gmapprom.img file is missing in Garmin directory on your CTP, only basemaps are available.
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Postby vinegaroon » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:31 pm

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those are two from a forums site. I think they are CTP12 though..
I check in the file manager on the unit and it's in there. Farthest i've gotten was about 95% and got the flash error..
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Postby subuk » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:02 am

Try to delete it then and reflash once again. Do you have gmapsupp.img file on your device ?
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Postby vinegaroon » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:13 am

can't delete gmapsupp.img on CTP unit. however I tried an micro sd. no luck. then another shot at the usb stick and now i think its bricked.. i went through the dealer mode an tried garmin restore.. now its stuck on garmin loading screen.
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Postby subuk » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:29 am

When the navi is able to load completely, there is no need to use garmin recovery mode. It only flashes gupdate.gcd
You could try to delete gmapprom.img and copy gmapsupp.img and rename it to gmapprom then.

Let know if it still hangs on logo screen or it loads to Where to / view map.
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Postby RudBH » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:18 pm

hello, I would like to know how to update the map with Freemont CTP13 south america 2014.20, I have the map but I create a folder and put GARMIN map with the name gmapprom.img on a SD card or a DVD media?
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Postby 392SRT8 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:06 pm

subuk wrote:Do you have similar options / subscription in your CTP ?


I just installed my CTP13 RB5. Similar screen to above, but no "Subscriptions" menu item. The unit I obtained is still active on it's first year of Sirius satellite radio, so possibly it will default back to the FM based TMC data when that subscription runs out. No way for me to test though since the satellite radio sub is active. I'm going to change the radio's country code though to see if it will give the "Subscriptions" option It might be an option on non-North America units. It might also be something coded in one of the setup files.
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Postby subuk » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:53 am

I really doubt that TMC FM subscription appears after Sirius subscription ends.
That could cause a huge loss for Sirius if FM TMC works well in the US.
I think that their marketing already took care about it. Anyway I think it might be done by updating RB5 with files from some equivalent Nuvi device.
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Postby 392SRT8 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:08 pm

Well, my Sirius subscription only stayed active for a day. I no longer have Sirius or the traffic data on the CTP13. I also do not have the traffic options that other CTP13 units are displaying (those that get traffic via FM).

Can those that have traffic check if they have a folder called GTM20? Possibly I can enable the FM traffic by just adding this data.

Below are screenshots of my config. This is a CTP13 running in a 2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8.

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Postby subuk » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:33 am

In mine, GTM20 also has status "Erased". But maybe someone from the country where TCM works just fine could check if he/she also does not have GTM20 while his/her TMC works ?
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